At first upon reading this thread of emails I was confused
as to what the whole argument was over... Then I realized it
was over a confusion of terminology, mainly by Coach X. How is
there no catch in any of these videos? The catch refers to when
the bar is "caught" on the shoulders. No catch would
either mean only a pull was done, or the lift was a missed attempt.
Power refers to the angle at which the knee is at when the bar
is in the "catch" phase. All of the videos mentioned
would be considered power cleans... the one in the Coach X's
video is just a power clean being done by an inexperienced lifter,
which is why he looks so stiff and catches it on straight legs.
I reiterate, which you already obviously know Whitney, a power
clean just means that the knees were bent at 90 degrees or less.
Coach Rodden has beautiful technique and speed in the videos
:). Coach X must be using the term catch to mean squatting under
the bar, which is incorrect. If I am mistaken, or not making
things clear, or am not getting the right point of what you guys
are arguing over, just let me know. Hope this helps.
Zach Schluender
James,
I did not mean to attack your videos or your website, I understand
what you are getting at. I actually have really enjoyed and have
been learning from your website. I misspoke about the catch,
I apologize I wrote too quickly. I meant to say that the power
clean is a clean without the squat. Which I now know is catching
a clean without breaking parallel. I struggle to get my athletes
to not go below 90 degrees. They either like to go ass to the
floor (not finishing their pull) or catch straight legged. The
video makes it look very easy but to get kids to keep their hips
back and heels to floor in the clean is quite difficult. Thank
you for taking me to school, I learned from this experience.
Coach X
Thank you for your kind words on the ExRx site. I understand
this can be confusing even for a coach.
Yes, Whitney makes it look quit easy. She had a great coach,
Tom Cross, CSCS, USAW Sr Coach. In 2008, Coach Cross was inducted
into the National Strength and Conditioning Coaches Hall of Fame.
Also keep in mind that parallel typically refers to the thigh
relative to the floor as in a squat,
which is significantly lower than 90 degree limit we are talking
about here, which refers to the thigh relative to the shank,
or lower leg.
I would like republish our conversation (without your name) so
others may also learn from these common misunderstandings.
Tell your collegues about us. Your patronage is appreciated.
James Griffing, ExRx.net
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