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Cables question

Post by bob » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:15 am

Are there any advantages to using cables over free weights or machines?

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Post by Ironman » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:46 am

machines yes, free weights no. It is better than machines because it is just a cable and pulley, where as a machine is a cable and pulley as well as a lever. I think cable is better than lever machines too because the resistance is more constant. Free weights and weighted exercises are the best though.

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Post by bob » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:36 am

Hi Ironman- When you say weighted exercises, do you mean weights attached to the body, such as when doing pullups?

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Post by Ironman » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:12 am

yes

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Post by Stephen Johnson » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:54 am

bob wrote:Hi Ironman- When you say weighted exercises, do you mean weights attached to the body, such as when doing pullups?
Ironman wrote:yes
I thought weighted exercises included bodyweight-only exercises like pull ups

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Post by Matt Z » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:03 am

Bodyweight Pull-ups and Weighted Pull-ups are really the same exercise. The one difference is the amount of resistance. Same goes for Bodyweight and Weighted Dips. The only exception I can think of is the Kipping Pull-up, since I don't think you do these weighted.

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Post by stuward » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:15 am

I saw a video of someone doing these with weight vests on.

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Post by Matt Z » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:27 am

That might work, if the vest fit snugly and didn't shift much.

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Post by ironmaiden708 » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:11 pm

There are hooks you can buy which you can attach to a lifting belt:
http://newyorkbarbells.com/powerhooks.html

Also there are dip belts which you basically have a belt with a chain and you loop the weights through it.
http://newyorkbarbells.com/im-5621.html

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Post by Ironman » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:15 pm

yea, weighted, assisted and bodyweight are the same. It is just bodyweight exercises where you add or counter balance resistance as needed.

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Re: Cables question

Post by sinsate17 » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:35 pm

bob wrote:Are there any advantages to using cables over free weights or machines?
Not over machines, no. Over free weights? Yes, on some exercises, if done right. It's faster to load/de-load cables, just move the pin.
I find on bicep curls, cables provide fantastic resistance throughout the whole Range of motion if I angle my body backwards as I pull. Less likely to cheat, great time under tension, and it's provided the best results for me (as anecdotal as that is). Same with overhead triceps extensions and lateral shoulder raises, and there's a set of unique chest flys that have done more for me (and saved my shoulders) than bench pressing ever has. Here's the thread link and a link to a video with good form.

Thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=624814

Video in thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... 814&page=8

But, overall, nothing beats the big freeweight exercises - Squats and Deadlifts. And adding bodyweight to pullups, dips, chinups is a great plan if you can manage it.

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Post by DeadFrog » Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:42 pm

After using DB and BB for years (for this) I found using a cable for wrist and reverse wrist curls to be absolutely fantastic. You can have a natural range of motion and resistance throughout. For the reverse wrist curls I am down on one knee with the cable going under my leg of the opposite hand which I am working out. The forearm rests on your thigh perpendicularly. They should REALLY put that one on the directory. Works great, I have to keep after my wrists; due to my small frame they are a weak point. Now they are a strong point!

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